Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile who supposedly killed himself in federal prison in 2019, had photos of Donald Trump with “young girls” who were “topless,” according to a new podcast episode from reporter Michael Wolff. Epstein also reportedly said “Trump has no scruples,” according to Wolff, who interviewed the financier extensively before he died.
Wolff made the bombshell claims on his podcast Fire and Fury, and the anecdotes were being extensively debated and dissected on social media platforms on Friday. The reporter said he has probably “100 hours” of audio tape of interviews with Epstein, though didn’t share a plan to release them.
“Epstein on more than one occasion would bring out these photographs that he had of Trump. And there were about a half a dozen photographs and they were, you know, from the late 90s,” said Wolff. “They were Trump at Epstein’s Palm Beach house, sitting around the pool with these young girls. And the young girls are topless and in some of the pictures they’re sitting in his lap. I mean, and then there’s one I especially remember where there’s a stain, a telltale stain on the front of Trump’s pants and the girls are pointing at him and laughing.”
When Wolff was asked where the photos might be today, he heavily suggested that some ally of Trump may have successfully hidden them from public view, given the fact that Trump was president at the time Epstein’s house was raided.
“You know, he would go and he would take them out of the safe,” Wolff said of Epstein. “And then he would return them to the safe. And I would say it was likely that they would have been there when the FBI—Trump’s FBI at that point, not to put too fine a point on it—raided Epstein’s house and took the contents of the safe in 2019.”
Trump’s friendship with Epstein has long been known, and there are many pictures of the two men together, including the one at the top of this article, when they attended a “Victoria’s Secret Angels” event in New York in 1997. But the new details reported by Wolff are sure to raise new questions about Trump, who has been asked about Epstein during recent podcast interviews.
“Um, he was a good salesman,” Trump told podcaster Lex Fridman in September when asked about Epstein. “He was, you know, a hale and hearty type of guy.” Trump went on to suggest that he might release some mysterious “tapes” of Epstein, with the implication that only Democrats would be harmed by them.
Elon Musk, the far-right billionaire who’s spent at least $120 million this election cycle to help get Trump re-elected, has also claimed that Democrats don’t want Trump to win because any “tapes” with Epstein might be made public. However, Musk has his own connections to the extended Epstein universe, as he’d been photographed next to Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell at a party, and Epstein even set up Musk’s brother Kimball with a girlfriend in an effort to get closer to the SpaceX CEO. Musk has also repeatedly suggested his political enemies are scared of a Trump win because of the Diddy sex trafficking charges. Musk has his own connections to Diddy, as the musician was an investor in Musk’s purchase of Twitter back in 2022 and he reportedly called him a “friend.”
But even people who dislike Trump are likely to take Wolff’s latest claims with a grain of salt. The reporter has previously been accused of exaggerating and embellishing in his stories, including in his 2018 book Fire and Fury. And while his statements in the new podcast episode seem plausible, he hasn’t released the 100 hours of Epstein tapes he claims to have.
At this point, Wolff has only shared a one-minute clip of Epstein talking about how Trump played psychological games with his staff to get them to work against each other. It’s vaguely interesting, but not exactly surprising in any respect.
This is insane. There are over 100 hours of recordings of Epstein talking about his relationship with Trump and describing the inner workings of the Trump white house. pic.twitter.com/jd9RSomITZ
— Alejandra Caraballo is on Bluesky/Threads (@Esqueer_) November 1, 2024
“I probably have a hundred hours of Epstein talking about the inner workings of the Trump White House and about his longstanding, deep relationship with Donald Trump,” Wolff said on his podcast.
Well, we’d like to hear them, Mr. Wolff. Not that it would have any bearing on the election, just a few short days away on Nov. 5. Everyone has pretty much made up their mind at this point about whether they’re voting for Trump or Harris. But it would still be nice to hear these tapes for the sake of the historical record.
Trump’s presidential campaign did not respond to questions sent by email on Friday. Gizmodo will update this article if we hear back.
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